"Jack Does Cars" (jackdoescars)
01/11/2016 at 20:45 • Filed to: north korea | 3 | 14 |
North Korea does not have a famous automotive industry, by any means. Sure, they currently have Pyeonghwa Motors that makes VW Passat copies, and builds the old Ssyangyong Chairman (which, in turn, is an old Mercedes E-Class) under license. Back in 1987, though, they probably built their most famous vehicle. And the West knows almost nothing about it.
What We Do Know:
1. It’s a clone of a 1987 Mercedes 190E.
2. It was built sometime between 1987-1988
3. A few real Mercedes 190Es were shipped to Pyongyang, in which they were immediately reversed engineered and copied.
4. The North Koreans did a terrible job replicating it.
5. Only a few prototypes were made.
6. And it has a four cylinder gas engine, with some sort of transmission, with all of the power, however much it is, going to the rear wheels.
What We Don’t:
1. Everything else.
We don’t know how many were built, we don’t know what kind of four-cylinder is in it, or where it came from, we don’t know who built it (there are differing sources), and we don’t even know what its, “real name,” is.
Seriously, we don’t know what Kim il-Sung and his posse originally called the beast.
Most people will call it the Keangsaeng 88, much like how I am in this article, and others will call it the Pyongyang 4.10, and a select few will call it the Paektusan.
Many sources will say that the 88 lacked air conditioning, heat, and that dust would often fill up the cabin. That’s my kind of vehicle. Basic, but featuring the classic lines of Mercedes-Benz.
There is often only one photo to be attributed to the Keangsaeng 88, which is posted at the top of the article. According to Car and Driver, this famous photo was snapped by Meinrad Frhr. von Ow, way back in 1989.
Do not fret, there is at least one other.
Sadly, we know even less about this photo. This super grainy example comes from the Flickr of, “GTO SuperSport Blog,” who also has a photo of a !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , a bent !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , among other random photos, so I don’t think this mysterious GTO SuperSport Blog person really knows anything about this vehicle, but rather someone who just came across a photo of the car.
Nonetheless, we can draw clues from this photo about the infamous North Korean 190E: Because of the hubcaps, I do not believe that this particular 88 (or 190E, or whatever it is) is the same as the classic orange example in the widespread photo from 1989. Also, I believe that this vehicle is at some sort of show or exhibition, due to it being on special blocks.
Due to that, I would like to think that someone, or perhaps some corporation, tried to market the Keangsaeng 88 inside North Korea. In turn, I don’t really know why the Koreans would market anything because people cannot buy vehicles in North Korea. In that totalitarian state vehicles are not purchased, but instead are gifts from the party.
Okay, that’s good and all, but explain this:
Yeah, I can’t, really.
This photo was taken in Pyongyang in 2005, and it depicts a very long line of maroon 190E’s, a lone blue 190E, two white W114 chassis Benz’s, and a black, right hand drive, Nissan Cedric. It makes no sense to me, and I shall try to figure it out in another list.
1. Why is there a long, two lane wide as-far-as-the-eye-can-see group of (when this photo was taken) 20 year old Mercedes parading through the streets of Pyongyang? They could possibly be being delivered to a bunch of members to the communist party, or they could be on the way to show off to a group of tourists, proving they could manufacture vehicles.
2. Why do these 190E’s look so clean? They all look like they just came out of Mercedes’ Bremen factory, not a shed on the outskirts of Pyongyang. They all have new paint jobs
3. Are they even real Mercedes? If you look closely of the badging on the blue car, it does not say “190E,” or, “190D,” but rather just, “190.” As far as I know, Mercedes never produced and marketed a W201 chassis car called the 190.
4. And why have we never seen these maroon 190's again? I have always found places that I cannot go to as interesting, and I attempt to find out all the information I can about these places. Whether it be Cuba, Area 51, and especially North Korea. And through my time of searching through photos of Pyongyang, and YouTube videos of street scenes, I have never seen another maroon Mercedes 190E. Did the government get rid of them? Did they put them in storage? Where are they?
There has also been speculation that the Keangsaeng 88 is even a real car. So I’m just going to leave the article at this, because the more you research this vehicle that doesn’t have a real name, a real origin, or even a real purpose, the less it makes sense.
Brian Adams, a Car and Driver commenter, had this to say about the 88 back in 2010:
“Do we actually have any proof that the “Kaengsaeng 88" is indeed a real car that was actually built by the North Koreans? How do we know they didn’t just take a Mercedes 190 and stick their own badge and grille on it?”
jkm7680
> Jack Does Cars
01/11/2016 at 20:57 | 2 |
Knowing them, they’d probably just stick their own homemade badge and grill on one and call it theirs.
Jack Does Cars
> jkm7680
01/11/2016 at 21:10 | 2 |
Either way, it’s an interesting story. If you can call it that...
Spasoje
> Jack Does Cars
01/11/2016 at 21:13 | 0 |
So many unsolved automotive mysteries! I’m always curious to find the answer, even if it ends up being underwhelming most of the time hehe
BTW that plate is Spanish, not Estonian! E = España; they’re talking about how
Spanish plates are plastic now
(like UK plates), hence also bendable like in the photo.
jkm7680
> Jack Does Cars
01/11/2016 at 21:26 | 0 |
agreed
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> Jack Does Cars
01/11/2016 at 21:28 | 2 |
So aspirational!
Jack Does Cars
> Spasoje
01/11/2016 at 21:35 | 0 |
Oh, thanks for the info. I thought E stood for Estonia because logic. Thanks!
Jack Does Cars
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01/11/2016 at 21:37 | 1 |
It makes me want to buy a rebadged Fiat produced by fascists.
Well, Italy is fascist too...
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> Jack Does Cars
01/11/2016 at 21:37 | 0 |
THERE WERE NO SURVIVORS
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01/11/2016 at 22:06 | 0 |
pip bip - choose Corrour
> Jack Does Cars
01/12/2016 at 02:33 | 0 |
According to Wiki , there was a base 190 , had a whopping 90HP/67kw motor.
190E had 122HP/91kw
Jack Does Cars
> pip bip - choose Corrour
01/12/2016 at 06:19 | 0 |
The U.S model made 130-158 HP
Fradias
> Jack Does Cars
01/04/2017 at 10:01 | 1 |
Sorry to comment on an old post, but the user who posted the grainy picture does have quite good info on the Kaengsaeng 88! Apparently the asian mercedes copy featured an old engine that’s frequently found in soviet vehicles, and could easily be told apart from the real 190 from certain aspects, such as:
- No passenger-side mirror
- No rubber door-gaskets
- Fixed door windows
- They mention something I can only interpretate as “No dust-filters”, but I’m not sure what that means. Could be my Spanish not being good enough. I’ll leave the link referenced by the user here, maybe someone will read this better!
Oh and yes, there is proof of it’s existance, of it’s details, everything. It was present in it’s full glory at the Pyongyang 1988 Fair.
http://gtosupersport.blogspot.pt/2013/04/kaengsaeng-88.html
akaram
> Fradias
01/07/2017 at 17:13 | 0 |
Thanks for the interesting post. Mabye North-Korea tried to make a peoples car like the Trabant but after the collapse of Soviet Union they lacked fundings and stopped development
chrisswansea
> pip bip - choose Corrour
09/25/2017 at 12:21 | 0 |
Hi that’s right, i do have a pic of a 190, 190E, 190D and 2.6-16 in a line but can;t upload it, easy to find on Google. Also, I owned a maroon 190E last year :)